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Any one like to shoot macro stuff?
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Author:  Lucasberg [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Any one like to shoot macro stuff?

Macro might be my favorite. I shoot with a Sigma 180 F3.5 Macro and one day hope to get a MPE-65.
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2 macro TL's


Author:  timescapes [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:35 am ]
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Those are cool. It's almost like that lizard knew he was on camera. :)

Can you link to your pbase or flickr so we can see your stuff full size?

Author:  Lucasberg [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:57 am ]
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I added a link in my signature like you guys did now. None are full size though, mostly 720x480 because I only get 500mbs.

Here is a quick slideshow of some of my faves from the last couple of years.

Author:  milapse [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:17 pm ]
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Sweet shots Lucas!

I like the big....
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and the small...
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^^this one was shot with the Ricoh GR... amazingly diverse camera^^

Author:  153957 [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:31 am ]
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I like macro a lot, but have not been doing it a lot the last year,
since I dont yet have a macro lens.
I think Im going for the 150mm Sigma soon.

I did use macro mode on my old compact quite often.
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Author:  Drayg0 [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:11 pm ]
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Absolutely:

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http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/objects-equipment/3128726-hoppy.php?id=3128726

Author:  Lucasberg [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:16 pm ]
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Nice shots guys. My photography this year has dropped off alot since I started doing timelapse. I used to always look through my yard for creatures.

Author:  matt b [ Thu May 13, 2010 10:52 pm ]
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Frames from a close up timelapse sequence test.

B/G is a very small photo positioned behind soil, the stem is about 100mm's high. EDIT: 10mm high .... :oops: :oops:

5D2, Nikkor Micro 55mm+ extension tubes, f 32.

Author:  Photosbykev [ Fri May 14, 2010 5:20 am ]
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Wildlife photography is my main passion but I do get distracted by other genres like water drops / high speed flash / panoramas / long exposure / time lapse work. http://www.photosbykev.com :)

This was with the Canon MP-E65 macro lens, superb quality but bloody difficult to use lol My day to day macro lens are the Canon 100mm and Sigma 150mm with extension tubes and the MT-24 macro flash rigs.

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Matt B: for the seedling timelapse with background photograph obviously the background wouldn't change. Have you considered running a computer monitor behind the main subject with the contents of a previous shot timelapse being shown as a timed slide show on the screen??? You would need to balance the exposures front to back and probably put the monitor outside the DoF to make it relatively soft to mask the pixels etc but I can't see a reason why it shouldn't work?

Author:  Delrious [ Fri May 14, 2010 10:38 am ]
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I've recently become re-addicted to macro stuff. I've been messing around with my (previously motorized) linear stage and using it has a high precision focusing rail for the MP-E 65mm. Image stacking is almost as addictive as time lapse! But much more stressful (lot's of holding my breath to get sharp shots at 5x without using enough light to cook my flowers...I need to get a macro flash ring).

HDR + Image stack (I don't like this composition, it's more of a proof of concept):

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This was a 40 image stack:

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No stacking:

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Picking from a stack for exact selective focus:

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There's a lot more on my flickr (in my sig)

Ben

Author:  Photosbykev [ Fri May 14, 2010 11:06 am ]
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Delrious wrote:
I've recently become re-addicted to macro stuff. I've been messing around with my (previously motorized) linear stage and using it has a high precision focusing rail for the MP-E 65mm. Image stacking is almost as addictive as time lapse! But much more stressful (lot's of holding my breath to get sharp shots at 5x without using enough light to cook my flowers...I need to get a macro flash ring).

.....

Ben


Take a look at the Cognisys website, specifically the Stack Shot system they have developed :)

Author:  Delrious [ Fri May 14, 2010 4:25 pm ]
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I basically built my own stackshot about a year and a half ago. I mostly used it as a macro dolly for "Montipora", but I also did a few stacking experiments with it, for example:

http://www.vimeo.com/4112727

Author:  matt b [ Fri May 14, 2010 5:26 pm ]
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Delrious, do you have an idea of the 'in-focus' plane of the Canon MP-E65 when using f16 (or what ever you think the best f-stop is) in a standard (non-stacked) mode. I guess it is in the very low mm/ins.?
Reading up on it , that lens has great reviews.
And just for interest, what was the max. travel for your motorised linear stage?

Your focus stacking shots are great.

Photosbykev, the still photo B/G test seemed "a good idea at the time" :oops: , it was less than 3 inches wide and jammed up behind the soil to keep it in focus. I usually shoot either against bluescreen or a black B/G.

Author:  Delrious [ Fri May 14, 2010 8:21 pm ]
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The lens is F16 at it's tightest. It looks like a little less than a mm at 5:1 and probably about 5mm at 1:1. But I won't really know unless I actually test it. I'll do some tests with a ruler the next time I get my high mag macro rig setup and let you know.

I believe this image was at F16 5x with no stacking, you can see just a sliver of focus:

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By far the biggest problem with this lens is sensor dust. I guarantee you that no matter how much you clean your sensor, you will see plenty of dust at F16/5x. It is effectively F80 or something. It's fine for stills, but get's hairy for time lapse. Almost all of the "Montipora" shots have some dust hidden somewhere in the frame.

My stage has about 6 inches of travel, but I burned out the driver a while ago and now I just use to manually move my lens between shots as adjusting it's position is much more fine and doesn't require as much force to adjust it as a regular focus rail (I can just put one finger on the wheel with a little bit of force to move it). Usually I just eyeball it to figure out how much to move it between shots. I zoom in to max on live view to make sure each shot has as little camera shake as possible. It's almost as if just my heart beating while I sit in my char will make my lens wiggle a little bit when at 5x.

Author:  matt b [ Fri May 14, 2010 11:46 pm ]
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Thanks for the info.

From the archives - attached is a photo of a macro rig used by Oxford Scientific Films in the sixties(?) equipped with a 16mm Bolex cine camera.
Check out the cluster of high intensity water cooled condenser type lights.

Your comments on "the lens wiggling" explains this rig - it looks like it's a re-purposed heavy machine base of some sort ....... it's not going anywhere.

Author:  Photosbykev [ Sat May 15, 2010 12:12 am ]
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I like the stacking timelapse :) it clearly illustrates the magnification changes that the software has to cope with to produce a good composite image.

Matt b: I think the idea of a background image has a lot of merit, maybe an out of focus LCD picture frame would be ideal being fed images from another timelapse sequence ?

Taken from this site http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Revi ... eview.aspx

..."And while I'm on the subject of focus, DOF (Depth of Field) is another topic I want to expand on. DOF on the Canon MP-E 65mm Macro Lens ranges from 2.240mm (1x, f/16) to .048 (5x, f/2.8). At 5x and f/16, the MP-E gives a minute .269mm DOF. This sounds worse than it really is as a grain of rice (says Canon) can fill the viewfinder. Subjects this tiny generally do not need as much DOF as something like a flower. ...." with f16 having an effective aperture of f96 !

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