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 Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine 
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Post Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
Hi everyone,

just found this in another forum and thought I could share it with you guys:

It is still a beta version, but it is very fast and the ReLight function is seems to be mindblowing - if everything works like in the demo video of course!
The other functions show some potential but are not yet matured, the RAW development engine doesn't have any noise reduction and other important features that full blown RAW developers like Lightroom, Capture ONE, etc. have.
It seems still very promising, let's hope they developers will deliver the necessary improvements and we got a great addition to the market.
Check it out. :-)



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Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:42 am
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Post Re: New interesting tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
Here is a first impression about the software I wrote in another forum:
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I got mixed feelings about this new software. It seems to me they still need to implement lots of advanced features. If this a really a beta version, I am a bit sceptical if they will add the features that are IMHO necessary to have a shot at the market.

ReLight seems to be really amazing and could be a game changer. Changing the colour temperature for every single light source is awesome and could eliminate a lot of problems every photograher is faced when dealing with mixed light sources.
There is no way I know to do such a thing in PS with investing alot of time and the use of complicated masking (and still get inferior results).
I haven't made any test pictures myself to see if it always works like with the provided sample files, but it seems to be very promising.
Of course one would need an HDRI file for every light source. With the sample Jpegs one gets easily banding in the kitchen scene if the lights are tweaked quite a bit.

The RAW developer also needs some further development. There is no noise reduction at all which makes some photos I shot at night unusable (especially because of the heavy chroma noise). ACR 6.x offers better overall detail/noise ratio and superb chroma noise supression. At the current state it seems useless to me.

The tonemapper is not so fast anymore if fed with three 12.7Mp RAW files from my 5D on my ULV C2D laptop, although still faster than Photomatix, which I suspect does quite a bit more computing due to its unique local contrast enhancement. I haven't done exhaustive tests, but Picturenaut still seems to be faster than PhotoEngine.
The so called "Advanced Tonemapper" does not offers many knobs to fine tune the image, though I have to admit the auto output looks very pleasing. I miss a highlights/fill light slider to finetune the output instead of just adjusting the overall dynamic range compression.
The "Detail Strength" is basically just an USM/high pass filter with a high radius, Photomatix for example offers much better local contrast enhancement like Tonal Contrast from Nik.
"Detail Size", "Detail Threshold, and "Edge Sharpen" seem to change very little.

The curves for luminosity and saturation are awesome! The are very intuitive to use and provide a nice workflow compared to the competitors. The same goes for the HSL tab, which makes colour correction very easy.

I am also missing buttons to reset the curves and the HSL tab.
The ability to save 32bit files is mandatory, but I expect support for it soon, as mentioned above ReLight needs HDDRI support too, to get high quality output.

Don't get me wrong, I am still very curious about the software.
If they tweak everything, so that it can be used by enthusiasts and professionals, it will be a great addition to the market and will instantly compete with the big names.


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Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:54 pm
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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
using it right now and the 32bit JPEG conversion looks good :)
will be posting the result as soon as i finished merging/converting!


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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
Judging from the video and the above comments it seems like a very promising tool. The individual light controls look just awesome on the video! It seems to work on about calculating differences between the photo's to determine the light sources, which i must say is clever.

The 3 photo's in the video seem to be the same exposure, with the only difference being the light sources turned on or off.. I wouldnt consider this to be HDR though. I am wondering if this tool would also work when different exposures are required for each light source, if it would then be possible to mix and match with a natural look id be the first to buy it...

I am very curious as it might just be the tool to have for interior photography.

Thanks for sharing

Edit: lol, didnt notice the first post was about two years ago...


Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:16 pm
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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
here is the result in pictures....
the video will follow...

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Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:11 pm
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here is the finished file...

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Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:13 pm
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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
here's the last frame of the sequence...

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Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:18 pm
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and the result...

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File comment: final in Lightroom tonemapped JPG HDR-file
2012-12-30 - HDR - Ammersee_0910-HDR.jpg
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here's the final result:



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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
The result looks pretty good,
do you like the program? lets say better than photomatix?


Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:11 am
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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
can't really say anything about it because i just used it as a merger and "pre-tonemapper"... i did the final editing in lightroom...
i haven't used photomatix myself... but almost everything I've seen coming from that program is so over-HDR'd (plastic look)
and i don't like that at all... but I think realistic looking HDR-photos would be possible with it, too..

so.. i can only recommend downloading the trial and testing it yourself :)


Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:35 am
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Post Re: Interesting new tonemapper: Oloneo Photo engine
I see your point, and even though i havent done a lot of HDR i agree on the plastic of photomatrix. Atleast, i couldnt get a half decent picture out of it.

I'm also more fond of a more natural look,

mayb sometime in the future ill look into it a wee bit deeper, im particularly curious about the multiple light sources option. Would be cool to do that with somewhat automated.. Cause now im just hassling with blendmodes and a wee bit manual masking, which works but isnt an ideal workflow..


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