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Post What to say when some asks to use your footage?
So I received an email essentially saying: "I have seen your video and would like to know if our clients may use it in their broadcasts or on their websites with a credit to you."

What do you say to that? Are they just offering a credit, would you let them just for that or should you insist on payment?

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:44 am
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
You should ask for a lot more info from them!
Who is the client?
Who is asking you? (is it an ad agency etc)
Broadcast where? USA only or global etc
At point of sale or just on broadcast platform?
For how long....I got one recently for 1yr, after 1 yr if they use it again then they pay me again.
And unless this is really low budget and you wanna help out for your own benefit/credit or for a friend etc yes they should be paying you.

it also matters how much footage they want.....per second is accurate.

If it is for commercial use, you should be payed the going rate for a commercial cinematographer for however many days work the footage equates too.


If they could possibly get similar footage elsewhere find out how much it would cost them and go in just under :)

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:22 am
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
Alright, thank you mate big help.

I've just had another request from this site http://www.rightthisminute.com/ for using the video on their website and/or their tv show. If they just want to host it on their website should I be paid for that too?

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:27 pm
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
lucasfunkt wrote:
Alright, thank you mate big help.

I've just had another request from this site http://www.rightthisminute.com/ for using the video on their website and/or their tv show. If they just want to host it on their website should I be paid for that too?

hosting your video as a standalone thing, or editing it up for their own use?

I assume by the nature of the website they are using it as a standalone video. Maybe the exposure alone would be good to do it for free?

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:40 pm
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
BBC wanted to use a night timelapse I had done with a Moon Halo with no pay, but they offered to give me credit. I declined.

The way i see it, between the price of the materials to build chronos, the cnc we used to cut out the parts, the time spend learning CAD, CAM, and the machine, the hundreds of hours I have put into designing the code for Chronos 2.0, the time i have spend testing and debugging the system, the distance I had to travel, gas I had to spend, cameras I had to buy, memory cards, computer and software to render, and the thousands of hours of photographic experience I have under my belt, them offering credit was laughable.

the funny thing is if they would have approached differently and asked if i would have donated it for their documentary i probably would have been happy to oblige, but when they said "no pay, will give you credit" then in my view they have assigned a value to the timelapse which is incredibly under priced.


As long as everybody gives things away for credit there is no reason for anyone to pay.

You dont have to subscribe some massive price to it, but for the love of god they could at least buy you a nice meal and a 6 pack of beer.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:52 pm
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
Stuff credit. Nothing in life is free, why should your timelapse. If they want it they should pay a minimum of $25 a second.
I recently sold 2 x 4 second clips for $1100, they named the price too..

My advice is tell them you need a small fee and see what they offer. He who names the first price loses, it's the first rule if negotiating.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:00 pm
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
Who the hell watches the credits anyway....

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:06 pm
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
Owen wrote:
Who the hell watches the credits anyway....

True!

It would be good to have BBC listed as a previous client though. It could also open the doors to future work with them.

But, I agree that there is a value to the work, and they should recognize that.

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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
agour wrote:
Owen wrote:
Who the hell watches the credits anyway....

True!

It would be good to have BBC listed as a previous client though. It could also open the doors to future work with them.

But, I agree that there is a value to the work, and they should recognize that.


Yes that is a good point but it pisses me off more that an organisation as large as BBC can't afford to pay the little guy... I say give em nothing :)

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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
you should be represented. then when people ask, you refer them to your "sales agent", the stock house.


Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:31 am
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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
fwdinc wrote:
you should be represented. then when people ask, you refer them to your "sales agent", the stock house.


I wish I had a sales agent, are there agents for time lapse photographers?

I don't mean working for an agency, I mean an agent who will help get you work and in turn take a cut of what your earn?

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Post Re: What to say when some asks to use your footage?
The good thing about being represented by a stock house is that you own the intellectual property and it is only licensed.
The thing is, you have to have a large library of shots to see money coming in on a regular basis.
Time-lapse takes a lot longer to make compared to real time stock footage, so it has to be a labour of love.
All stock houses will take time-lapse because due to its popularity.
There is a time-lapse-only stock house in Britain but their market is only in the UK so far. You want the US market.
The one in Vancouver Canada closed it's doors a few years ago.
Hope this helps.
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