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I've only ever used Quicktime Pro to put time lapse together and I've never really bothered with putting music to the images, not that I have the software to do it anyway. However, music is obviously a massive component of the finished product and the effect on the viewer.

Where/how do you get music to use in your clips? I'm a little concerned about doing anything illegal because my rig related clip( soon to be clips) are definitely a commercial use so I need to do the right thing but I can't really justify paying to use music.

I suspect that with non commercial uses you can probably get away with a lot more. Any suggestions/thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

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Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm
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I've actually found some indy artists who's work I enjoy, contacted them, asked nicely and everyone is happy!

The other interesting source is ccmixer it's all creative commons licensed music so depending on the level your going for it can be a very good resource. I've made a few contacts through this site as well...

There is also stuff like garage band, your basic royalty free packs, and public domain resources.


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Thanks Jay.
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Jamendo

Just make sure to do an advanced search to include the right Creative Commons license that will let you use the music commercially.


Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:31 pm
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timelapseforum wrote:
Jamendo

Just make sure to do an advanced search to include the right Creative Commons license that will let you use the music commercially.


8-) 8-) Nice!! 8-) 8-)

you know... I have this crazy idea... What if we contacted THIS ARTIST got the consent and...

all came together to make an entire film together!!!

a friggin' 20 minute multi-national co-operative time-lapse epic. hmmm....


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...you know the even crazier thing? I actually have already thought of making a movie between all of us.

It would be one hell of an undertaking though. I defintely would be up for creating a new website dedicated to this project.

Have you heard of Silicon Valley Time Lapse? Do you know if they are signed up on vimeo?

I'm watching the DVD right now lol.


Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:21 pm
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Have you heard of Silicon Valley Time Lapse? Do you know if they are signed up on vimeo?

I'm watching the DVD right now lol.


If they do, then maybe someone should teach them how to clean their sensors...

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jjphoto wrote:
timelapseforum wrote:
Have you heard of Silicon Valley Time Lapse? Do you know if they are signed up on vimeo?

I'm watching the DVD right now lol.


If they do, then maybe someone should teach them how to clean their sensors...


I did chat with that guy a while back... Should invite him over.
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Can't speak for commercial use but I've been using whatever music I want, and just crediting the artist at the end. I believe this makes it "fair use" although I'm not too sure/don't really care. If an artist were to contact me asking for the removal of their music I would be happy to comply.

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Can't speak for commercial use but I've been using whatever music I want, and just crediting the artist at the end. I believe this makes it "fair use" although I'm not too sure/don't really care. If an artist were to contact me asking for the removal of their music I would be happy to comply.


I think that's quite reasonable too, as long as there is no commercial use. The problem is that if you use it as a promotional piece for yourself then that makes it a commercial use, just like any other advertisement, so you open yourself to legal action. I'm not a lawyer so this is just my understanding.

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If they do, then maybe someone should teach them how to clean their sensors...

JJ


Lol, wow...I might let a spot or two slide but that is horrible!

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On the matter of:
jjphoto wrote:
how do you get music to use in your clips?

I use both Quicktime and Garageband.

Sometimes I make the audio in garageband (just mix something up myself..) and sometimes I take a bit from existing music.
In both cases I process the music in Garageband, in the case where I use existing music I just see how long my movie is and then try to crop the music to that same length in Garageband and maybe add some fadein/fadeout.
Then I export it as an AAC file.
Then I open the exported aac file and my processed/exported Timelapse movie in Quicktime Pro and select and copy the audio and then go to the movie and choose 'Add to movie' form the menu and it will paste the music along side the movie starting from where the playhead is at.
And then I simply re-export it using Passthrough exporting to maintain the quality (I use the H.264 video codec+AAC-LC audio)

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On the matter of:
jjphoto wrote:
how do you get music to use in your clips?

I use both Quicktime and Garageband.

Sometimes I make the audio in garageband (just mix something up myself..) and sometimes I take a bit from existing music.
In both cases I process the music in Garageband, in the case where I use existing music I just see how long my movie is and then try to crop the music to that same length in Garageband and maybe add some fadein/fadeout.
Then I export it as an AAC file.
Then I open the exported aac file and my processed/exported Timelapse movie in Quicktime Pro and select and copy the audio and then go to the movie and choose 'Add to movie' form the menu and it will paste the music along side the movie starting from where the playhead is at.
And then I simply re-export it using Passthrough exporting to maintain the quality (I use the H.264 video codec+AAC-LC audio)


Thanks for explaining how to do that. I didn't even know I could use Quicktime to add the sound!

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Just make sure the audio you are adding to the movie is either the exact same length or shorter, otherwise it will add some blank frames to the end of your movie, containing sound only.. and then you'd have to go about getting rid of those..

Note/hint: if you place a music track in garageband and then want to trim it to a specific length you will need to set the timebar to the actual time, see the attached image for the control that I mean, this gives finer control over the trimming and also gives a better indication of the actual length of the audio, which will probably need to be about the same length as your movie..
Dont set it to 'notes'. Because if you set it to the Notes you will not have super fine control over the trimming of the music (well, if you set it to 1/64 note (using the Ruler at the end of the time line see 2nd attached image) you should be fine to)


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I used a program called Audacity, which is freeware.

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not to plug anything here but i work with nice+smooth ultramedia - a label based out of toronto. we often license free of charge music for web 2.0 applications [youtube/vimeo/flickr/facebook/etc] and are pretty decent to work with when it comes to commercial applications too. most of the catalog is electronic and/or organic ambient based but we delve into other areas. if you have a clip that you're working on and want some musical suggestions, feel free to get in touch.


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nicesmooth wrote:
not to plug anything here but i work with nice+smooth ultramedia - a label based out of toronto. we often license free of charge music for web 2.0 applications [youtube/vimeo/flickr/facebook/etc] and are pretty decent to work with when it comes to commercial applications too. most of the catalog is electronic and/or organic ambient based but we delve into other areas. if you have a clip that you're working on and want some musical suggestions, feel free to get in touch.


Thanks, will do.
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