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Wally Does it Again... APOD
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timescapes
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm Posts: 1696
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 Wally Does it Again... APOD
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1076686/Pictured-Our-Milky-Way-like-youve-seen-before.htmlhttp://digg.com/space/Amazing_photo_of_Milky_Way_like_you_ve_never_seen_it_beforeFrom the photographer, Wally Pacholka, as posted on Society for Popular Astronomy message board: Quote: "Hi Gang, I am the one that took this photo of this amazing place Got a lot of comments on this so here is the real deal - short story & long story. Wally Astroman, I have no problem at all giving details about the False-Kiva Indian Cave photograph. Since I have been hit with 100's of inquires about this amazing photograph in the last few days I will attach a long answer that will I hope answer most questions. The short answer is that this real genuine photograph of a wide Indian Cave that required panoramic stitching of 4 separate side by side single frame photographs each showing the sky/landscape in one single 25 second exposure at high iso setting without a tracking tripod giving pin point stars and a sharp foreground with the small mm lens that I used. I sent a correction to the APOD folk that this is not a long exposure and that it is a pano stitching of 4 side by side single frame shots each with sky/landscape frozen in the 25 sec exposure. I did not get a chance to proof the APOD caption so some things are there that they may have assumed but are not what actually happened - but thru no fault of there own, but I simply failed to mention when I submitted the image. They have published 28 other images of mine and all of those were single image, so it is natural for them to asume this was a single image. It is important to note that this is not a composite image but a stitching of 4 separate side by side sky/landscape single frame shots. Todays cameras do not need tracking systems to get pin point stars if the exposure is short and the iso high so now photographers can have the best of both worlds - sharp sky and sharp landscape, but I also have 40 years experience doing this sort of thing. It is easier now. But not if you consider that I made 4 1200 mile round trips to this location with bad photographic results and only got my keeper shot after much planning (waiting for cresent moon to light the hills) and was successful only on this 5th trip. See brightnightgallery.com for more of my pics. That's the short answer. An impressive amount of planning and work went into this shot. Well done. 
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:15 am |
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dcmiller
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:44 pm Posts: 69
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The shot is incredible, but the PS work of the cave leaves a lot to be desired. The masking between cave and sky makes it look like a composite. Also, the lack of tonality in the cave shows he didn't have the cave exposed properly in a second shot.
Nitpicky, sure. But I think this forum is for serious photogs and there's a lot to learn from this shot. It may be he has cave exposures that an experienced PS person can fix. But more likely he does not have a correct cave exposures.
About five years ago at Arches I saw a lightning storm, full moon and stars all at the same time. I did pretty well photographing, but I was far from perfect. I'll never see that again and I wish I was better at night photography.
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Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:40 am |
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timescapes
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm Posts: 1696
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I am heading for Arches myself pretty soon. I can't wait.
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:42 am |
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timescapes
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm Posts: 1696
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Probably mid November, for moonlight shooting.
that truck sounds awesome. any pics of it?
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:16 pm |
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Michael
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:54 am Posts: 611 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Guys, I am envious  That sounds like a lot of adventure...
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:59 am |
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timescapes
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm Posts: 1696
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I would love to have something like what Ansel had on his car on my Ford Explorer...  I don't know how much weight the roof could handle, though. Edit, here is a pic and thread: http://photo.net/large-format-photography-forum/00B2SB
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Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:28 pm |
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rlavoie
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:40 pm Posts: 166 Location: Montréal, Canada
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tmophoto wrote: you cant really stand up there when shooting a timelapse the truck rocks back and forth quite a bit, same if its windy. try putting a glass of water up there and you will really see how much it moves around.
t I agree. It is ok for still photography, but not for timelapse. I had to shoot from the top of a step van in windy conditions for a documentary a few years ago. We were using a 16mm camera and a normal prime lens, but we had to steady the truck with four jacks (3 borrowed from people around) in order to get a steady shot.
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Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:39 pm |
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rlavoie
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:40 pm Posts: 166 Location: Montréal, Canada
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tmophoto wrote: you could install the 4 corner hydraulic lifts flip the switch and instantly stablized  Mmmmh... I think jacks are a little cheaper, no? 
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Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:20 pm |
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Antz
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:36 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Antarctica/California/New Zealand
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rlavoie wrote: tmophoto wrote: you could install the 4 corner hydraulic lifts flip the switch and instantly stablized  Mmmmh... I think jacks are a little cheaper, no?  Another trick, if you have a solid bumper (not the factory light tin or plastic version) or another suitably solid chassis point... Cut a couple of hunks of wood to be a couple of inches longer than the length from the bumper to the ground, wedge them under the front and drive forward up on them until they are straight and have taken the load. Whole front end is now rock solid, and has removed 90% of movement. Need to make sure the tires are still in contact with the ground to remove sideways movement to stop it falling off though. I used to do this on my Landcruiser. Easiest with notches cut in the top to fit the truck. Very fast, and even Cheaper. Only need one extra jack to do the whole rear end then as well if you want to do that too.
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Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:19 am |
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timescapes
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Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm Posts: 1696
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I mean, unless it's windy, couldn't you just set up your shot, start it going, then climb off the SUV and let it roll? I don't think the car would be moving at all, if there was no wind.
I recently had a shot where I had an 8ft fence blocking my view of a telescope dish. If I could have gotten the camera 12-15ft off the ground, it would have worked perfectly.
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